The End of Divine Hiddenness? (Part 7 of the Divine Hiddenness Series)

Published: 22 December 2023
on channel: Real Atheology
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This is a response to a recent video by Christopher Cloos at ‪@ChristianPhilosophyAcademy‬.
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In his video, Cloos presents an objection to Schellenberg's divine hiddenness argument from a recent essay by Daniel Howard-Snyder which argues that, possibly, God may hide from people to attain a 'better start' to a relationship with them even while being perfectly loving.

I first trace the dialectic between Daniel Howard-Snyder and J.L. Schellenberg before examining Howard-Snyder's most recent attempt to undermine Schellenberg's argument. I conclude that Howard-Snyder's most recent reply fails to undermine Schellenberg's argument.


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00:00 - Opening comments
01:01 - Cloos' video reply
01:52 - Howard-Snyder's initial reply (1996)
04:41 - Schellenberg (2005) in response
05:39 - Howard-Snyder's updated reply (2015)
07:30 - Withdrawing from an existing relationship
09:02 - Ill-disposed nonbelievers
12:13 - Well-disposed nonbelievers
12:56 - Are they responsible for their being so well-disposed?
14:02 - Well-disposed with improper motivations
15:37 - What might God prefer?
16:26 - Why the accommodation strategy won't work here
16:51 - An even better pair of alternatives?
18:13 - Howard-Snyder's analogy
20:01 - Schellenberg (2017) in response
23:14 - An additional response by me
25:00 - Closing comments / Exit